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About the theory that Oz’s children are the Maidens, like if that’s the case, then he lied again, most likely to not let people find out his past with Salem. But it doesn’t explain why his power is dwindling, or that could be another lie. Maybe he hates using his power and hides as a normal man, like some inverted Wizard of Oz. I mean the guy is known to lie and omit information from his allies, so the Maiden story could be a lie. But its most likely that the Maidens remind him of his daughters.

itsclydebitches:

Honestly? I feel like the fandom has hooked onto this “Ozpin lies” assumption when in fact we’ve seen him objectively lie once: saying that the relic was out of questions. 

Everything else? Not a lie. Oh, we can (and have been) arguing semantics, but the fact of the matter is that we have a massive collection in the “Ozpin tells the truth” pile, one thing firmly in the “Ozpin lies” pile, and a few potentially wishy-washy things in between. 

  • Pyrrha? Got nothing but truth from him, much of which has canonically been proven correct. Yes there was a war brewing, yes there are young girls with great power, yes the power follows these rules, yes Amber was attacked, yes this could kill you, yet you might not be the same person afterwards, etc. etc. 
  • Ozpin was totally truthful about his reincarnation with the gang. And then again with Yang and Weiss. And then (presumably) again with Blake. 
  • Bird powers? Not a lie. Not telling someone everything you’ve ever done in relation to this war isn’t a lie (especially when that wasn’t even Ozpin’s secret to tell. It was Qrow and Raven’s). You can’t expect the 2000+ year old guy to go, “Okay, I’ll tell you every detail that might in any way prove pertinent to our crazy complicated situation so that you can’t ever discover anything new later on and claim that I intentionally hid it from you. This is an absolutely possible and worthwhile conversation when we’re on a time limit.” 
  • Same with the relic attracting grimm. Keeping that info to himself was “playing things close to the chest” (something Ozpin freely admits to doing). He then gave the info without prompting when it became relevant. A lie would have been “This relic is totally safe and there are no downsides to carrying it around!” when in fact Ozpin explicitly told them the opposite: it’s dangerous. 
  • Saying they need to beat Salem isn’t a lie either. That’s fact. They do need to beat her, even if they don’t know how yet – another thing Ozpin was dead honest about: “I don’t have one [a plan].” 

So yeah, everyone can keep going in circles about whether Ozpin’s words echo the exact spirit of the facts; whether he ever said things that might be interpreted in different ways… but overall his track record is a good one. Really good, considering how many times he’s been betrayed. He’s honest with people when honesty is the best policy (and so far that’s been 99% of the time). He admits to information when it becomes relevant (relic, lack of plans). He’s blunt about their situation even when it might be kinder to suger-coat things. To my mind there’s a grand total of one (1) instance that suggests Ozpin might have lied to them elsewhere… and a whole slew of evidence to suggest he hasn’t. Right now we have no reason to doubt his “dwindling” power comment. 

As for the Maidens story? That was a fairy tale. We don’t know if that’s literally what happened or not, but Ozpin didn’t present everything in the story as facts, and he certainly hasn’t made any claims about his relationship to the girls beyond giving them his power. His “What if I told you it was true?” to Pyrrha was specifically in regards to magic existing. Which is, you know. True. 

Oh look, more honesty.